Legislature(2021 - 2022)SENATE FINANCE 532

05/03/2022 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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+ SB 85 FOREST LAND USE PLANS; TIMBER SALES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ SB 230 TRAPPING CABINS: FEE FOR CONSTRUCTION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ HB 54 INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 85                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to forest land use plans; relating to                                                                     
     forest land use plan appeals; relating to negotiated                                                                       
    timber sales; and providing for an effective date."                                                                         
10:33:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HELGE  ENG, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  FORESTRY, DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
NATURAL  RESOURCES,  discussed  the  presentation,  "SB  85:                                                                    
Forest  Land  Use  Plans, Negotiated  Timber  Sales:  Senate                                                                    
Finance Committee" (copy on file). He began with slide 1:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Overview of Presentation                                                                                                   
     I. SE Alaska timber industry is struggling to survive                                                                      
     II. How to protect timber jobs?                                                                                            
          1. Change negotiated timber sale statutes to                                                                          
          allow local industry to sell all the timber it                                                                        
          harvests, as export if needed.                                                                                        
          2. Provide contractual certainty: stable and                                                                          
          predictable supply of timber once a timber sale                                                                       
          has been purchased.                                                                                                   
     III. Sectional Analysis                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng pointed to slide 2, "The timber industry in                                                                             
Southeast Alaska is struggling to survive":                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     A  dwindling  supply  of  timber  from  the  US  Forest                                                                    
     Service  has gutted  the timber  industry in  Southeast                                                                    
     Alaska.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     SE  Alaska  supports  only  325  timber  industry  jobs                                                                    
     today, compared to  4,000 jobs in the  1990s. Now, even                                                                    
     those jobs are in danger.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng looked at slide 3, "Negotiated & competitive timber                                                                     
sales":                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ? Negotiated  sales: DOF may choose  a timber purchaser                                                                    
     not only based on the price,  but also on the number of                                                                    
     local   jobs  the   sale  provides.   Negotiated  sales                                                                    
     currently may not be exported as round logs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Competive sales:  the highest  auction bidder  wins.                                                                    
     Timber from competitive sales may be exported.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng pointed to slide 5, "How can we provide and protect                                                                     
jobs?"                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Step  1.  Change  negotiated timber  sale  statutes  to                                                                    
     allow  local  industry  to  sell   all  the  timber  it                                                                    
     harvests, as export if needed.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Currently,  negotiated timber  sales must  be sold  for                                                                    
     local manufacture, not export.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ? A  changing timber  supply (more young  growth) means                                                                    
     that  some  sizes  of  timber  are  not  marketable  in                                                                    
     Alaska.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ? Demand  for certain  species (e.g., hemlock)  is only                                                                    
     overseas or in the Pacific Northwest.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng addressed slide 6, "How can we provide and protect                                                                      
jobs?"                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Step 2. Once a timber  sale has been purchased, provide                                                                    
     a  stable  and  predictable  supply of  timber  to  the                                                                    
     operator by providing contractual certainty                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng highlighted slide 7, "Stable Timber Supply":                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An appeal can halt  harvesting, which can be disastrous                                                                    
     to a logging company.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     SB 85 ensures  that once the decision has  been made to                                                                    
     sell the timber, no further administrative appeals can                                                                     
     occur.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Input  would   still  be   gathered  from   public  and                                                                    
     agencies.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng looked at slide 8, "Steps in a Timber Sale":                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Public and agency comment gathered at each step.                                                                           
     1. Area Plans* & State Forest Plans*                                                                                       
     2. Five-Year Schedule of Timber Sales                                                                                      
     3. Best Interest Finding*                                                                                                  
     4. Forest Land Use Plans*                                                                                                  
     *Subject to appeal                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng addressed slide 9, "Safeguards on timber harvests":                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Timber  harvests  must  adhere  to  the  Alaska  Forest                                                                    
     Resources and Practices Act (FRPA, AS 41.17), which:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ? protects fish habitat and water quality, and                                                                             
     ? ensures prompt reforestation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng pointed to slide 10, "SB 85 has a zero fiscal                                                                           
note."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:37:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng addressed slide 12, "Section 1":                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Amends AS 38.05.035(e)(6)(A)  to maintain the exemption                                                                    
     of sales of  500,000 board feet of timber  or less from                                                                    
     a written Best Interest Finding                                                                                            
     requirement.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng discussed slide 13, "Section 2":                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ? Expands from 10 acres to  20 acres the size of timber                                                                    
     harvests exempt from needing a Forest Land Use Plan.                                                                       
     ? Requires a Forest Land  Use Plan to be adopted before                                                                    
     harvest.                                                                                                                   
     ? Allows  a single  Forest Land  Use Plan  to authorize                                                                    
     timber harvest  for multiple harvest units  in a timber                                                                    
     sale contract.                                                                                                             
     ? Allows  DNR to  award a  timber sale  contract before                                                                    
     adopting a Forest Land Use Plan.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng highlighted slide 14, "Sections 3 & 4":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3  Forest Land Use Plans may not be appealed.                                                                      
     Section  4    Removes negotiated  timber sales  from AS                                                                    
     38.05.115;  moved to  AS 38.05.118  (see Section  7 and                                                                    
     8).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng pointed to slide 15, "Section 5":                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Adds new  subsection to AS 38.05.115(d)  requiring best                                                                    
     interest findings  to consider whether the  timber sale                                                                    
     buyer will:                                                                                                                
     ?  hire  Alaska  residents,  ?  contract  with  Alaskan                                                                    
     businesses,                                                                                                                
     ?  use  or  establish Alaskan  hiring  facilities,  job                                                                    
     centers, or internet job systems.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:39:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop asked where the language in Section 5                                                                           
originated.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:39:14 AM                                                                                                                   
Mr. Eng replied that the language was added in an amendment                                                                     
from the other body.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:39:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop appreciated the language.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:39:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng noted that the commissioner already had the                                                                             
opportunity to consider criteria.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:39:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng addressed slide 16, "Section 6":                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Local  manufacture   of  wood   is  not   required  for                                                                    
     negotiated timber sales.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng pointed to slide 17, "Sections 7-8":                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7    AS  38.05.115 negotiated timber  sales are                                                                    
     now consolidated in AS 38.05.118.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section  8    Consolidates  another  provision from  AS                                                                    
     38.05.115 into AS 38.05.118.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng discussed slide 18, "Sections 9-10":                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9    Allows timber  sales to be  negotiated for                                                                    
     local  manufacture of  both high-value-added  and other                                                                    
     value-added wood products.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  10      Deletes  requirement  that  negotiated                                                                    
     timber sales  must include contract terms  limiting the                                                                    
     sale  to   the  amount   of  timber   the  commissioner                                                                    
     determines  to  be the  maximum  amount  that could  be                                                                    
     commercially practical to harvest.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Eng highlighted slide 19, "Sections 11-13":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  11     A   conforming  amendment  due  to  the                                                                    
     consolidation   of  negotiated   timber  sales   in  AS                                                                    
     38.05.118.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  12     Because  of the  consolidation  of  the                                                                    
     negotiated sales  provisions in  AS 38.05.118,  both AS                                                                    
     38.05.115(b) and  (c) are unnecessary.  AS 38.05.123(e)                                                                    
     is  repealed due  to the  amendments in  Section 2  and                                                                    
     thus to  avoid redundancy. AS 38.05.123(g)  is repealed                                                                    
    because DOF has not used it for .123 timber sales.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 13  Establishes an immediate effective date.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:41:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:41:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JESSICA    PLACHTA,   EXECUTIVE    DIRECTOR,   LYNN    CANAL                                                                    
CONSERVATION,   HAINES   (via  teleconference),   spoke   in                                                                    
opposition  to  the  legislation.   She  believed  that  the                                                                    
states   forest   laws  should   be  strengthened   and  not                                                                    
weakened.  She expressed  concern  that  the public  comment                                                                    
opportunity  was being  removed  from  the process,  thereby                                                                    
putting  communities  at  risk. She  lamented  that  loggers                                                                    
would suffer  as their livelihoods  were sold  and exported.                                                                    
local communities  would lose their say  over the landscapes                                                                    
they  depended  on  for  their  economies,  recreation,  and                                                                    
subsistence.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:43:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ESTHER  GONZALEZ,  SELF,  CALIFORNIA  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
testified against the legislation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:45:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MATT  JACKSON, SELF,  SITKA (via  teleconference), spoke  in                                                                    
opposition to the bill. He  thought that the bill would harm                                                                    
the states   ability to  develop local  value-added markets.                                                                    
He thought that the bill made  to many exemptions as to when                                                                    
best interest finding should be  considered. He thought that                                                                    
the  criteria  for  local value-adding  and  local  economic                                                                    
impact and the  best interest findings should  be applied to                                                                    
timber sales of  any size. He opposed any  exemptions to the                                                                    
best  interest findings.  He disagreed  with the  removal of                                                                    
the  public  comment period  after  the  land use  plan  was                                                                    
issued,  which  he  qualified  as  contrary  to  the  public                                                                    
process.  He   strongly  encouraged  a  no   vote  from  the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:47:39 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair Bishop CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 85 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop discussed housekeeping.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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SB 230 Department Response to Committee Chart of DMLW Cabin Programs.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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SB 230 Explanation of Changes Version A to Version B.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 230
SB 230 Sponsor Statement Version B.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 230
SB 230 Department Response to Committee Examples of Permitted Trapping Cabins.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 54
HB 54 Explanation of Changes Version W to D 4.22.22.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 54
HB 54 Research - Cost of Invasive Species in US 1.2012.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 54
HB 54 Research - Cost of Managing Invasive Species in Alaska 7.2012.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 54
HB 54 Research - USFWS Alaska Invasive Species Presentation 3.11.21.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 54 Sectional Analysis - Version D 4.22.22.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 54
HB 54 Sponsor Statement - Version D 4.22.22.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 54
HB 54 Support_ AKISP_(SFIN)_ 4.19.22.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 54
SB 85 Sectional Analysis, Version B 4.9.22.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 85
SB 85 SFIN Presentation FLUP Timber Sales 5.3.22.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 85
SB 85 Sponsor Statement 2.11.21.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 85
SB 85 Summary of Changes 4.9.22.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 85
HB 54 DFG Committee Response 5.6.22.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 54
SB 230 2022-05-03 DNR Follow Up to Senate Finance Committee.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 230
HB 54 Research - Aquatic Invasion Diminishes Ecosystem Services from Alaskas Salmon Fisheries - Tobias et al. - June 2019.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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